Thursday, August 26, 2010

Teleotalk:


An examination of the claims -- and value-- of

the modern Intelligent Design Movement





(a mini course presented by Kirk Jordan to the assembly of Fellowship Bible Church, Conway AR.)



Session 1 – And introduction to Teleology: the power, place, and meaning of the modern

Intelligent Design Movement. (big survey of a lot of concepts, pretty important to

understanding everything else.)





Session 2- The Case for Design: What is the design inference? How do the physical foundations of the universe and biological complexity simply “reek” of design?





Session 3: The Interface of Faith and Science: In what manner does the Christian faith provide

foundation for scientific inquiry, and how should we think when the Bible and modern

science collide?





Session 4: Applied Design: (Design apologetics) Applying what we have learned to our lives.  (Including a video presentation of a recent debate between William Lane Craig and Christopher Hitchens on the existence of God.





Session 1 – And introduction to Teleology: the power, place, and meaning of the modern

Intelligent Design Movement. (big survey of a lot of concepts, pretty important to

understanding everything else.)





Intro:

Why me. (What credentials (or lack thereof) do I bring to this discussion;

Real Life Scenario. (Losing My Religion) How might you respond?

(Five Solutions)

What is Intelligent Design? What value does ID hold for us, and where does is fit?

Foundations

What is Teleology.

Outline - With Beef.

My wife and I sometimes play a game we call three sentences.  Our goal is to hone our thinking by squeezing our total thoughts about some subject or area of inquiry into three sentences.  I will attempt to use that limitation within this outline (with beef.)

Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Intelligent Design: An old idea in a new skin

None of this [debate over evolution] gives the slightest hint that we have been anywhere like this before, I mean before Darwin and the fundamentalist backlash ….Actually, much that divides the two sides in the modern United States was already a major source of debate in classical antiquity, pitting theistic and teleological Platonists and Stoics against anti-teleological Epicurean atomists.

Monday, August 23, 2010

Revelation v Science (Two Methods of knowing)






"There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority," Hawking says, "and science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win because it works."

Read more: http://www.newser.com/story/92121/stephen-hawking-science-will-win-against-religion.html#ixzz0xRpfntET

This division is simplistic (and wrong). Authority in religion is often established (recognised) on the back of observation an and reason.  And much of science finds is force from authority.



TIME: Dr. Collins, you believe that science is compatible with Christian faith.

COLLINS: Yes. God's existence is either true or not. But calling it a scientific question implies that the tools of science can provide the answer. From my perspective, God cannot be completely contained within nature, and therefore God's existence is outside of science's ability to really weigh in.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555132-3,00.html#ixzz0xRuqkm60






Albert Mohler on Michael Dowd (post-Christian, evolutionary evangelist)

In his own very effective way, Dowd clarifies the theological and biblical costs of embracing the evolutionary worldview. In describing himself as an evolutionary evangelist, he underlines the fervor of his cause and the inevitable collision between evolutionary theory and biblical Christianity. In sharing his sense that preaching the New Atheists as the prophets of God is his supreme calling, he points us to what is ultimately at stake.


We are engaged in a great battle for ideas that Christians understand to be a battle for hearts, minds, and souls. Dowd and his fellow evangelists for evolution are certain that they own the future, and that biblical Christianity will simply fade and disappear. “Ours is a time of space telescopes, electron microscopes, supercomputers, and the worldwide web,” he asserts. His conclusion: “This is not a time for parsing the lessons given to a few goatherds, tentmakers, and camel drivers.”

Well, give Michael Dowd credit for reminding us where the rejection of biblical Christianity inevitably leads.   http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/08/10/thank-god-for-the-new-atheists/

Notes: Teleology (Definition bank)

Teleology is the study of ends, purposes, and goals (telos means "end" or "purpose"). In cultures which have an teleological world view, the ends of things are seen as providing the meaning for all that has happened or that occurs. If you think about history as a timeline with a beginning and end, in a teleological view of the world and of history, the meaning and value of all historical events derives from their ends or purposes, that is, all events in history are future-directed . Aristotle's thought is manifestly teleological; of the four "reasons" or "causes" (aitia ) for things, the most important reason is the "purpose" or "end" for which that thing was made or done. The Christian world view is fundamentally teleological; all of history is directed towards the completion of history at the end of time.

Sunday, August 22, 2010

The Fundamental Problem

“The fundamental problem of Philosophy is that something is here.”

Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Reading Genesis: The Meaning of Days

The goal of general revelation along with special revelation is to know God, and thus “enjoy Him forever.” He has given us rational minds that are capable of thinking His thoughts after Him, particularly as concerns His creation. Just as the Holy Spirit illuminates our minds as we read His special revelation, so His providence directs the church of Jesus Christ to know the truth of His general revelation. In the knowing, that truth will indeed set us free. Until we know, Christ’s Church must not be divided over what we do not yet know. (Concluding section of the PCA position paper.)

http://cpcnewhaven.org/documents/theology-views_acceptable_in_the_pca.pdf

Monday, August 16, 2010

Teleology 101: The Watchmaker argument

In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer, that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it had lain there forever:

Watch-Maker 202: Challenges

The old argument of design in nature, as given by Paley, which formerly seemed to me so conclusive, fails, now that the law of natural selection has been discovered. We can no longer argue that, for instance, the beautiful hinge of a bivalve shell must have been made by an intelligent being, like the hinge of a door by man. There seems to be no more design in the variability of organic beings and in the action of natural selection, than in the course which the wind blows. Everything in nature is the result of fixed laws. (Charles Darwin)

Sunday, August 15, 2010

Teleology in Theology

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

Is teleology compatible with evolution? with science?

Note:  This is something of a load question, as science (and good thinking) suggest there are at least two major ways of thinking about Teleology - as an external, or internal "property."  ((We might also speak of "strong" or "weak" teleology.  Depending on which category we are using when we think, the answer may differ.  As a rule, modern science and Darwinian-evolution reject "external" teleology, but may embrace forms of internal teleology.  The question then becomes, how or in what sense, do "genes" or organsims "seek" or work towards some end (particularly the end of survival or self replication.)


Not compatable (Assumes external teleology)


http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/teleology-biology/




Teleology is taboo in modern science. It’s not hard to see why: purpose implies design, design implies a designer, and a designer is exactly what the predominantly atheistic scientific community does not want to admit. But yet, we use telic language–specifically the language of engineering–to describe concepts in biology all the time. Is it just because we know of no better way to describe systems than by analogy to those that we ourselves have designed? Or is there something deeper to the compelling similarity between “molecular machines” that we discover inside the cell and machines that we use every day?   (Part of a book review of the Design Matrix by author Mike Gene.)

Evolution V Evolution (Two views)



or, Is Evolution (ever) teleological?


Not Compatible:


Only a tad more than one in four teachers really believes in evolution as scientists conceive of it: a naturalistic process undirected by divine beings. Nearly one in two teachers thinks that humans evolved but that God guided the process.


Can we count those 48% of “guided-by-Godders” 0n our side? I agree with P. Z.: the answer is NO. Yes, they do accept that our species changed genetically over time, but they see God as having pulled the strings. That’s not the way evolution works. The graph labels these 48% as believers in intelligent design, and that’s exactly what they are, for they see God as nudging human evolution toward some preconceived goal. We’re designed. These people are creationists: selectivecreationists.


To count them as allies means we make company with those who accept evolution in a superficial sense but reject it in the deepest sense. After all, the big revolution in thought wrought by Darwin was the recognition that the appearance of design—thought for centuries to be proof of God—could stem from purely natural processes. When we cede human evolution to God, then, we abandon that revolution. That’s why I see selective creationists like Kenneth Miller, Karl Giberson and Francis Collins as parting company with modern biological thought.


http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/

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It is also irrelevant whether various religions differentiate between natural and supernatural. Once again, this is the TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, people. Wake up. The teleological argument demands a diametrical opposition between "designed" and "evolved". The terms are mutually exclusive. Something evolved doesn't have a designer, and is therefore not designed. Something designed has a designer, and is therefore not evolved. Evolution, by definition, does not progress through the arbitrary whims of a designer. Design, by definition, does not occur through the blind forces of evolution.



(From a back page wickipedia discussion on Teleology) --69.209.242.45 04:19, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Another idea that Darwin refuted was that of teleology, which goes back to Aristotle. During Darwin's lifetime, the concept of teleology, or the use of ultimate purpose as a means of explaining natural phenomena, was prevalent. In his Critique of Pure Reason, Kant based his philosophy on Newton's laws. When he tried the same approach in a philosophy of living nature, he was totally unsuccessful. Newtonian laws didn't help him explain biological phenomena. So he invoked Aristotle's final cause in his Critique of Judgement. However, explaining evolution and biological phenomena with the idea of teleology was a total failure.




To make a long story short, Darwin showed very clearly that you don't need Aristotle's teleology because natural selection applied to bio-populations of unique phenomena can explain all the puzzling phenomena for which previously the mysterious process of teleology had been invoked.


The late philosopher, Willard Van Orman Quine, who was for many years probably America's most distinguished philosopher — you know him, he died last year — told me about a year before his death that as far as he was concerned, Darwin's greatest achievement was that he showed that Aristotle's idea of teleology, the so-called fourth cause, does not exist.

EDGE: Is this an example of Occam's Razor?

MAYR: It's that in part as well, but what's crucial is the fact that something that can be carefully analyzed, like natural selection, can give you answers without your having to invoke something you cannot analyze like a teleological force.    http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/mayr/mayr_index.html







"Weak" or Internal Teleology

What's more, the view called teleology has been dropped by biologists: explanations of what something is for don't say that they are there in order to achieve an end result. It is enough that they are the result of selection....
There are two forms of teleological explanation (Lennox 1992). External teleological explanation derives from Plato - a goal is imposed by an agent, a mind, which has intentions and purpose. Internal teleological explanation derives from Aristotle, and is a functional notion. Aristotle divided causes up into four kinds - material (the stuff of which a thing is made), formal (its form or structure), efficient (the powers of the causes to achieve the things they achieve) and final (the purpose or end for which a thing exists). Internal teleology is really a kind of causal explanation in terms of the value of the thing being explained. This sort of teleology doesn't impact on explanations in terms of efficient causes. You can, according to Aristotle, use both.
Evolutionary explanations are most nearly like Aristotle's formal and efficient causes. Any functional explanation begs the further question - what is the reason why that function is important to that organism? - and that begs the even further question - why should that organism exist at all? The answers to these questions depend on the history of the lineage leading to the organism.
External teleology is dead in biology, but there is a further important distinction to be made. Mayr [1982: 47-51] distinguished four kinds of explanations that are sometimes called teleology: telenomic (goal-seeking, Aristotle's final causes, 'for-the-sake-of-which' explanations); teleomatic (lawlike behaviour that is not goal-seeking); adapted systems (which are not goal seeking at all, but exist just because they survived); and cosmic teleology (end-directed systems) [cf O'Grady and Brooks 1988]. Only systems that are actively directed by a goal are truly teleological. Most are just teleomatic, and some (e.g., genetic programs) are teleonomic (internal teleology), because they seek an end.
How the four forms of apparent teleology relate.

Many criticisms of Darwinism rest on a misunderstanding of the nature of teleology. Systems of biology that are end-seeking are thought to be end-directed, something that Darwinism makes no use of in its models. Outside biology - indeed, outside science - you can use external teleology all you like, but it does not work as an explanation of any phenomena other than those that are in fact the outcomes of agents like stock brokers. And even there, teleology is not always useful, for which stock brokers (or cabal of stockbrokers) desired the goal of the 1987 crash, or the 1930 depression? External teleology is useless in science, and any science that attempts to be teleological will shortly become mysticism.

Just a note: In reading back and forth I have seen some evolutionists who want to use the concept of teleology and other who do not.  My thoughts:


While Christianity is fundamentally teleological, not all teleological arguments presuppose (or argue toward) the existence of God.

While I would like to think that Aristotle would have (given exposure) embraced Christian Theism, he certainly did not advocate belief in a personal, knowable God. In fact, he would have seen most design as an INTERNAL attribute of matter, and not imposed from the outside. Call it a life force. Call it pantheism. Today, we call that mindset “vitalism” and it -- (as well as direct external telic activity) are taboo in most of modern Biology. (We do however, find some very grand exceptions. Roman Catholic evolutionary pantheist (?) Pierre Teilhard de Chardin argued for a form of evolution that truly is teleological, internally. (Nature is infused with direction, leading to a goal)



On the other hand, Darwin’s interpretation of Evolution removed the concept of goals. It is pure happenstance that beings such as us exist. Even so, some evolutionists wish to hold on to the concept of teleology. And this is where semantics get edgy.

A person speaking with the lens of teleology will say. A bird has wings that it may fly. (Goal) An atelic philosopher will say, No… because a bird HAS wings, it can fly. (Function.) However, a teleological reading of evolution may say, because a bird has wings, it is able to better function and survive.

In this latter case, wings clearly serve a function. And their particular arrangement fulfills the purpose of survival. (However, survival as such seems --in my mind – a product, but not a goal. We are left with the problem: is design, design if it is not purposed. Or… can an object fulfill a purpose, if that purpose itself is not pursued?

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For an extended treatment of the question:  Is Evolution compatible with a belief in the God of the Bible see:  http://teleotalk.blogspot.com/2010/06/are-evolution-and-belief-in-god.html

Tuesday, August 3, 2010